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  • Casual Love

    2008-03-17 11:54AM / 標準BLOG / 會員可以看
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    I’ve been thinking a lot about love, relationships and sex. Everyone has their own unique viewpoints on these subjects and how they correlate. People's viewpoints usually correspond to their age, what phase of life they're in and the way they've been raised. I’ve come to the conclusion that there’s no point in getting married unless the end goal is to procreate.  To me marriage is not about sex and passion- that’s infatuation. Marriage is actually a contract to say- I’m committed to being in a team with this partner and when we have children we will be committed to raising them together and caring for them.

    That’s why people put their partners through so many emotional tests during the trial period of being in a relationship. They are, in effect, trying to figure out if the person they are with will be a good mother or father. That’s why we go through many partners trying to weed out the ones we are compatible with from the ones we are not. Why do so many people wait ‘till they are ready’ to get married? Ready for what? To be committed to procreate.

    Many of the qualities people are looking for in a mate are biological. For example, why do so many women want to get with men that have money?- So their children as well as their own selves will be cared for. Why do rich short bald guys want to marry leggy models? So their potential offspring will have a better gene-pool to work from!

    I don’t care what anyone says, after many years of having sex with the same person, passions of the flesh fade what you’re left with is a tender companionship and friendship. Inevitably, if two people who are married don’t end up having kids, there’s not much glue to cement the relationship.

    So, if someone doesn’t want to have kids right now, is there really a point in being with someone on a long term basis? Is there any point in having a committed relationship where you can only have one sex partner? The way I see it, there is no point, unless you’re bored and lonely and just wish to have some sort of regular companion.

    This brings us to a philosophy that I have called ‘Casual Love’. It’s not casual sex per se. casual sex is with random people you pick up late at night drunk at a nightclub and when you wake up in the morning, more often than not, you would chew your arm off to get away from them. In my opinion, this is pretty base and should be avoided. Casual love is a bit like a mini-relationship but one that you know will not end up in marriage. In a casual love relationship, you enjoy a person’s company and accept them for exactly who they are foibles and all. You spend time with them and have fun together and you hopefully you also have loads of great sex. The thing that’s missing is the attachment and the demands that you make in a regular relationship which might be ‘going somewhere’ (heading towards marriage and procreation).  You know that in a casual love relationship that it will eventually end naturally-it can be a week or several months, but it will end. When that end comes, there’s no tears, just acceptance and good memories.

    Many people, especially women, will find this concept alien since people have been brainwashed to put love and sex on such a high pedestal. Even when the person is all wrong for a woman, she may become ‘dickmatized’ and try to get Mr. Wrong to be in a committed relationship. Why waste your time and energy really?

    I do believe that men are biologically programmed to spread their seed far and wide, which is why most of them- given the opportunity- will be playboys. Women, on the other hand, are the ones submitting to be possibly impregnated so they generally try to guard their treasure and not give it up to every caveman that humps their leg.

    Anyway, as a newly single person, I do feel that casual sex encounters should be avoided since they are not good for the soul, but I have no desire to be in a relationship either. Therefore, if I meet people who I’m physically and mentally attracted to, I am more than happy to share love, light, laughter as well as physical pleasure with them in the present moment.  There’s nothing sleazy or wrong about that is there?



     

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  • lizamonica
    藝術家空間 
    留言於2008-03-26 10:54PM
    Wow, Thanks everyone for all the poignant commentary! It's true that this is how I feel now but I'm not closed to the idea of getting back into another relationship. It just has to be the right time and with the right person.

    In fact, funnily I've decided to step back completely from physical encounters for a while to get some perspective.  

    On an interesting note, I recently heard of a woman who is 49 and was previously straight. She turned lesbian after she stopped registering on the babe-o-meter for men. I never heard that before but I can see how this happens for older lonely women.

    If you haven't already read it- check out my article about older women and younger men and why the phenomenon is so widespread these days.

    Apparently many men also have a "USE BY" date. once they start having to take the little blue pills, women move onto younger and more virile versions.

    http://www.hiphongkong.com/articles/cougar.htm

    It is true that a woman's attractiveness animalistically has to do with her baby-making abilities.
  • mariejost
    藝術家空間 
    留言於2008-03-26 6:55PM [举报]
    A few comment, first, you're taking a break after a committed relationship.  Love and committment, you want to set that aside for awhile.  This is perfectly understandable.  Otherwise you risk falling into the same situation with another person that didn't work out with the one you just ended with.  But I would say that it is quite possible to have a strong, loving and even sexually satisfying relationship with someone for decades, even be married, and never have children.  I have been with the same man since 1981 and we are getting ready to celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary in June.  Having the long-term committment has given me something that a series of short term relationships couldn't.  I got to know another person intimately and watched them change over time.  Even more, I got to know myself intimately and have seen myself change over time.  A lot of that maturation was driven by the need to work out my kinks that I had to confront in this relationship.  We never intended to have children for a whole variety of reasons.  We have no regrets as we approach 50 that we didn't have children.  We have put the energy we would have put into raising children into other things in our lives.

    Something else you might want to consider, and I will be brutally honest here, is that it is extremely difficult to form a relationship, casual or committed, with a man when you are over 40.  By 50, if you're not in a long-term committed relationship, the chances that you will be, unless you want to be the caretaker of some 70 year old geezer, are very slim.  So for women, the casual love things works when you are young and are considered desirable by the opposite sex.  But once you are in your 40s and your childbearing potential is coming to an end and all the other changes of aging become undeniable, you won't even register on guys' hot-babe-o-meter.  Unless you have money and attract the gigolo type, you will begin to be invisible.  Men your own age will be hanging out with women in their 20s and 30s, not with someone approaching 50.  One of my friends hypothesized this is why so many women become lesbians in their 40s and 50s:  they still want emotional and physical closeness with another human-being, but men have taken themselves out of the game.
  • jasontobin
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    留言於2008-03-18 2:22PM [举报]
    Good blog.  You raise a lot of interesting questions.  And I have to say I've felt the same as you especially after a break-up.  But in the end Casual love always leave me wanting.

    On the subject of love I really liked the book Essays in Love by Alain de Botton.  Have you read it?
  • bleupluie
    留言於2008-03-18 7:47AM [举报]
    i really love your articles...and i can't help to agree with what you've written in this one! we're living in an age where conservative clashes openness...Asian regions in general are still conservative in many senses compared to their western counterpart, yet the new generations are breaking the old-fashioned ways...
    with the current economy fluctuating up and down, and the opinion towards the idea of marriage shifts, not many are actually capable and willing to raise a family...so i guess casual love is something which is getting common now, to fill the lonely hearts, and to satisfy the needing and of being needed...
  • JasonChau
    留言於2008-03-18 1:17AM [举报]
    Liz,

    What you bring up is an interesting point.

    A lot of people talk about casual love, and to a lot of people I know - especially in the West (I was brought up in the UK) it seems very normal to have a one-off stand or sex with someone they randomly met.

    But I want to highlight an issue that this very idea causes.

    A good example is the friends I knew. Half of the friends I knew at school, came from divorced families - or what I call orphaned families. I knew people - some who were even my clients - who's family life was in tatters. Most English marriages I discovered, did not last for more than 7 years max. Some would divorce their husband/wife around 4 years after the marriage. I ask myself why does that happen? Now I'm not saying that marriage is sacred or is a must. I am happy also for anybody who does not choose marriage - but I do find a worrying trend I see in the West I rarely see in the East. And the issue is that of commitment.

    On my own profile recently I did a blog on East vs West tradition and someone inspired by my blog wrote their own East vs West thing. There was a question I had on that member's blog which Narom help answered. And the question was this: 'Why does children in the West leave home early while those in the East tend to stay late or even live with their parents?'. And Narom's answer was this:

    In the East, we have a tradition of fortification. The belief is, in order to succeed, you stand your ground. And this means building a strong family unit and making success of where you live.  This is why Chinese families tend to be large because of this belief to fortify where they live. From a strong family bond, comes a strong community, and from that a strong society. Everybody benefits.

    In the West the children leave early in their life because they are freethinkers, or pressurised and made to think they need to be independent from their parents. So they go off. And leave their parents behind. The downside to this is, they lack the love and strength of a strong family bond you get in the East. As without a strong bond they are left to their own accord to establish their own goals. This explains the reasons why there are on average, more divorces and fragmented families in the West than there are in the East. The 'Casual Love' habit comes from the fact of this issue of lack of commitment of the parents in the first place.

    Narom said that for Easterners, they would consider it risky if one uproots from the family, and goes off to a foreign country/somewhere unknown or unfamiliar to establish a home. To them it is safer (and better) in the long run to work on strengthening where they live and what they are familiar with.

    I want to say that there is a logic to having a strong family. As like in our universe where the planets surround our Sun, or as like the electrons that surround a nucleus/atom - a strong family bond strengthens people/children, their lives etc and this in turn strengthens society, making it harmonious. It is the same in principle. From a strong family you have a strong nation, who would then strengthen that with people of strong morals and strong ethics. Casual love? If you want to have a nation of children with no loving mothers or fathers, where their lives are broken and their children's childrens lives are broken - you go right ahead and do it, you make that choice. As it is said 'Charity starts from home'. A solid family, thus society, does not come from casual love.
  • JRS
    留言於2008-03-17 3:51PM [举报]
    Nicely written blog.

    Hmmm....I married young (age 20)....I wasn't looking for love, love found me!  My husband and I are still going strong, commited to our relationship.  Our 25th wedding anniversary is this July.  =)

    To me, marriage is a daily refreshment of cementing the existing relationship (either with or without children)....adding another layer of bricks to the stronghold, if you will, to make it more concrete.  I value loyalty and commitment as well as friendship and a more positive-than-negative outlook on life.  I think I was lucky to find somebody that I was instantly compatible with...he felt the same way.  It was like we had always known each other our whole lives---destiny.

    Whatever decisions a person makes in regard to marriage, love, casual love/sex, or isolation, the person has to be willing to accept the responsibility of their decision and its consequences.  There is no right and wrong unless you assign that value to what you're doing or have done.  Every experience that we live through and file away in our brains only adds another chapter to our library of life experiences.  From that library comes our ability to make the next decision/choice.
  • pedrochaves
    藝術家空間 
    留言於2008-03-17 3:36PM [举报]
    there is nothing wrong with Casual love.

    People should learn to enjoy life and the company of others. And as you said, people have been so brainwashed about love, marriage and sex. I'm not saying that we should sleep with everyone we meet, but that people should try to pick up love and sex from a more relaxed point of vue.

    Again, great article Liza.
  • lizamonica
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    留言於2008-03-17 1:53PM
    Being dickmatized is a choice. In order to not be dickmatized, you have to control your thoughts and emotions. Try not to spin some romantic story around someone or make excuses for someone's bad behavior.

    You also have to realize there are alot of fish in the sea and be open to meeting the other fish.

    Men are created differently and can usually compartmentalize their feelings and detach themselves emotionally from physical encounters. Women who embark on a physical relationship with someone can easily be dickmatized unless they have clear heads and look at a situation objectively.

    That's easier said then done however. Enjoying someone's company in the present moment is the key. Don't dwell on them too much when they aren't around.
  • dannychau
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    留言於2008-03-17 1:47PM [举报]
    The conclusion that you have arrived at present is perfectly suitable for your age, physical and mental condition. But that will change once you grow a little more mature, or when and if the RIGHT person comes into your life.

    All life are nothing but simple sets of experiences which in time will make us spiritually more aware, like there shouldn’t be any fixed rules as you believe about the so call ‘Marriage’ which turns us into a form of moral and physical imprisonment.

    In absolute terms there are no rights and wrongs, as all the differences in their extreme are there because it shows us the complete spectrum of our being.

    But in relative terms CASUAL LOVE will cause a lot of negative effect for both mental and physical in time to come. As all things being equal, we must think first before we commit ourselves fully of our actions and take responsibility accordingly.
  • olive-ma
    留言於2008-03-17 1:05PM [举报]
    Could you write a blog on how to not get dickmatized?  Cheers.
  • pokedpenguin19
    留言於2008-03-17 12:04PM [举报]
    i love your dickmatized comment. And i think what you say is true, but personally, i wouldnt have casual sex with anyone, just for the pleasure? >.< i dunno. hahaha but at least ur thinking about it. =]]

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