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  • Shit Just Got Real (Episode 3 Reflections)

    2008-07-15 5:04PM / 標準BLOG / 會員可以看
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    This is yet another part detailing the experience working with Jon Truei of Surprise-Terminated Films and Fernando "Jay" Huerto of Jabronie Pictures after I had invited them to come down to Chicago to be a part of "Those Who Go To Hell". Part 3 of a 4 part blog.

    When I first saw you baby, I wanted to die
    Me and those dreaming eyes of mine, started to cry...
    Then I'd dream, wishing my fantasy, would soon become a reality...

    WELCOME, MASTERKILLER67

    As stated before, I had invited out Jon Truei and Fernando Huerto to also be a part of this very large scale project of ours. Seeing as how well the house fight with Paul, Leo, Scott, and Jose went, as well as considering that these fights were more HK like in their choreo, I felt much more at ease. In fact, I felt so confident, that compared to the house fight, i opted not to write down choreo and just make it up on the spot. I figured that if its the usual HK stuff we did, and with these experienced fellas (not that the guys before weren't as or better experienced, just different type of fight/logistics) I would go through the fights no problem.

    No problem at all!

    You see where this is going, right?

    Anyway, so I had each fighter for about a week and a half length. Jon would come first, then as soon as he left, not more than 3 days later, Jay would come in. In terms of shooting days though, I only had 2-3 days for the project, then one day for each person to do fun stuff on film. The rest was to relax and rest.

    Thus Mr. Jon Truei comes in like a whirlwind of fire! haha, well he IS highly energized just about all the time, but the interesting factor is that I have known Mr. Truei for about 3 years! Actually, he was the very FIRST person I talked to about film making online more as a peer than someone I looked to for advice or critique. Not saying that Jon isn't GREAT (which he is) but that he was the first person to make me feel more like I was talking to a fellow friend and we shared many interests and passions and for his age (at the time he came, he was 17, and when I started talking to him, he just turned 16 I believe) he was quite mature and had TONS of great potential all around. Of course I HAD to use him haha.

    So of course, we always talked about working with one another and finally, through some careful maneuvering, we managed to convince his mother to literally allow him to fly alone and spend a week or so with some strangers he never has personally met.

    Like I said, Jon is a ball of spitfire. I didn't think he would be THAT bubbly and upbeat, and LOUD haha, but he sure was and is. After picking him up and taking him back to my place to get settled, we had Keith come by and we spent the day into night just chilling and watching various movies and causing a ruckus in the household (which the parentals weren't too pleased about). Then we slept in a bit until we got picked up by Tony Reddix to go back to Keiths apartment to start shooting, as we would need to film the whole weekend there to get everything we needed.

    Oh Baby

    Won't you please be my...

    ...Subject

    ARE YOU READY TO BE A MAN?

    So to prep for our long weekend shoot, we brought some video games over to Keiths, got a White Castle 30 sack pack because Jon has NEVER eaten a slider before and thus we subjected him to the hilarious horrors and effects that he had to endure. (He ended up liking it though no prob) and we waited for Shawn to come by after work to get started.

    So I explained most things to Jon and we went through in order to get started on what we needed.

    And thats where problems started arising.

    As we would go about shooting and I setting up for my shots and whatnot, and getting things in order, Jon would start questioning me. And not questioning about what my methods by any means, but basic questions about what could he do to help or even throwing out pointers. I didn't mind at all, and told him that it wasnt necessary, but thanks for trying to help, I know what I'm looking for.

    Yet he somewhat persisted on doing this throughout the night.

    You see, Jon is used to doing most things himself and having to get everything organized and keep tabs on everything because no one else will. I don't blame the guy at all for caring alot about what looks good and what doesnt. He's normally used to dealing with people who accept less than.

    However, I don't work that way, and I almost had to consistently remind him to stop asking me those questions. It's not that I got offended, but I really just wanted him to relax and act as opposed to try to direct the scene. It's not like he went out of his way to be like that, its just it was like having an unnecessary second hand.

    So after finally telling it to him straight, it settled down and we were doing fine. Things were going good, if not much better, and we continued along and stopped after it got too late.

    Along the way hilariously during the night, Jon somehow plugged the toilet and it spilled all over Keith's bathroom. Thus Jon and I had to hilariously go out and ask a gas station and then 7 eleven for paper towels and get cleaners and such. Not to mention it was March and it was COLD AS SHIT haha.

    So we started on the next day after going to get Shawn and Jon some breakfast (chinese food no less) and this was the big acting portion of everything. You see, out of all the guys I asked, Jon and Jay's characters correlate with one another and their fight is supposed to intercut back and forth along with their preceding dialouges before hand. Thus they didnt have that many lines, but a good amount of them to build their character and motives (as the others arent as important, and their use was more for building a uniqueness through their performances).

    Anyway, so I felt we got off to a good start and I was more of a stickler this time about performance and really trying my best to give the guys direction on their acting and being as specific as possible when needed. However, what I didn't expect was how much time it took AND for what was to come with Jon.

    You see, Jon is quite experienced in screen fighting and knows what to look for and definitely has an eye for it. However, he's never been fully tested in the sense of really having to show everything he's got in a scene and bring that character to life, as opposed to you know, looking like normal Jon Truei. Yet with his background in theatre and his experience, I figured it would be easy, right?

    Nope.

    Not that Jon was like terrible at it, not at all, but I simply expected SO much from him that I failed to realize in my own head that hey, he's only human, still young, and still learning! It's not like Jon ever complained or anything, he tried REALLY hard all the time and had a great attitude about everything and really tried his best to make sure he could get it as good as possible.

    But for me, it wasn't enough sadly. Keep in mind, for those who have been reading these, that in the Ep. 1 blog, I said my group were the ones that told me I should really settle down and stop being a dick. Well, this and Jay's thing happened before they told me these things, and though as you'll see soon, I did apologize and talk to both guys, I still to this day, feel really bad about everything.

    Yet I digress. All in due time.

    So yea, though Jon was being great and trying hard and working towards getting down falls (which he'd never really done before and in so much succession) and working towards showing a more full range of character, I wasn't having it. I just thought it wasn't as good as I expected it to be. Jon had such a short fight not because he wasted the time we had, but I DID. I underestimated his ability and instead of just going with the flow and working around his flaws at the time, I tried to force out what I wanted and that took FOREVER. Not to mention it didn't help I wasn't the most pleasant person at the time.

    Thus, we finally finished his fight and that was that. We had some more acting stuff to do at an outside location, but that would be for later. For now, my stress level was gone, but not forgotten.

    We spent the next day at Keiths getting all the dialouge done and man oh man, when I found out what Keith and Tony taped while Jon did his dialouge, that was the funniest shit EVER. I'm going to put it up one day, to tide people over as a behind the scenes thing. But its HILARIOUS and I love Keith and Tony to death for doing it.

    On Jon's final day, I spent it taking him around downtown Chicago and showing him various PK spots and down state street. At night, we ended up filming the rest of his acting stuff and his Team Internet fight. There especially, I made that man work, work, work. Yet I think it definitely showed. Would you like to see? Here it be:



    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hFcUU1EARU




    And thus, after all of that, Jon Truei left and I took him home and it was bittersweet in fact. As much as sometimes I got so frustrated with him out of my poor, poor, behavīor, I did really enjoy my time with him. His spirit is amazingly commendable and the positivity he shows is wonderful. He's a big ball of energy and the best part is, he's always happy to share.

    Don't it always seem to go

    That you don't know what you got

    Till it's gone...

    SUCK ON THAT, ASSCLOWN!

    So just after Jon left, I had 3 days or so to prep before Mr. Fernando Huerto came into town. When he did come, Shawn, Keith, and I picked him up and off we went to Midway airport to get him and drive him back to my place. Yet much like Jon, Jay REALLY wanted to try White Castle again haha. So off we went to get yet another 30 sack and bring it back home to which Jay LOVED haha. He really loved eating them. So much so, he saved some for breakfast and ate them again! haha.

    Anyway we got ready and off we went to Depaul University to film the dialouge between Jay and Chad. Dialouge went really well in fact and we got done actually before Chad's deadline so he stayed a bit to watch some of the fight being shot before going to work.

    After Chad left, we got some basic inserts of the fight and got ready to work! The sucky thing about both fights however, was the lack of space! Both Keith's basement apartment and the Depaul basement were REALLY small and lacked alot of space for camera use. We either really had to be clever with angles or I had to be really clever in editing to cover up holes and keep things looking exciting WHILE still showing the audience the movements I wanted.

    But that wasnt the biggest issue. See, much like Jon, I expected quite a bit from Jay as well. Even more so because of his experience as a film maker AND working with Vlad and The Stunt People. I mean his worked showed for it, so I definitely wanted to get a great performance out of him. I thought we would be able to do some CRAZY stuff.

    Well, not super crazy, but we definitely got some very cool and solid stuff going.

    Thing is, did I feel that way at first? No, I didn't to be honest.

    Again, not because I felt Jay was lacking or anything, but because I expected WAY too much. I wanted more and more from him, and because he was not used to pushing himself to the limit, he tried his best, but he got very tired, very fast.

    The thing is with me at that time, I had not screen fought for about 6 months or so. I trained just a bit, but not nearly as much as I used to. Thus, I trained quite hard for about 2 weeks before Jay came to brush myself up and get ready for anything. I wanted to show myself I could still do this and really, really, push a performance not only out of Jay, but of myself. I wanted to show a different me and a character, as opposed to just my usual performances. This would be the first fight I shot with myself in it and I demanded alot from Jay, but much, much, more from myself.

    That's how I am. I always feel that as hard as I push my team and the people I work with or who work under me, when its my turn to step onto the screen and in front of the camera, I have to work TEN TIMES harder. This is because as the head, if I cannot even keep up with my own team and keep my skills growing physically, why should I demand so much and give back so little? To me, everyone is equal, and thus I push myself and am extremely critical moreso of myself when I am in front of the camera. I feel I can always do things better.

    However, for someone like Jay and especially anyone who has never fought me before on screen, that can mean hell because you are then suddenly forced to play catch up or figure me out. I really should have said that I wanted to make this a great scene and I wanted to push myself so he could prepare himself mentally, and perhaps a bit physically, but I never told him. I just thought he would be able to do it.

    Again, don't get me wrong when I say Jay couldn't do it. Really, he could and DID do it. I think his performance was really, really fantastic and his physical performance is probably the best I've seen him do in a long, long, time. I am extremely grateful to have him come down, be extremely humble about everything, try out as much as he could, and constantly push himself as I asked him as hard as he could without complaining. He was so damn professional and wonderful to work with and thats why I felt so bad when I realized during shooting, that I was simply asking for too much and not being considerate enough back.

    At first, I was feeling the same way I did with Jon, but then it hit me quite hard. I had treated both unfairly and didn't give them the full credit they really deserved, and earned.

    I felt terrible about the whole thing and I talked to Jay about it after we finished shooting the whole fight. I apologized and really thanked him for coming out. Again, he was very kind and humble and professional about the whole thing and even thanked me for the experience. To me, what could I say? It made me feel worse because he never hated, doubted, or even talked bad about it. He enjoyed his time, he enjoyed the challenge, and he was even willing to do it again and work with me again. I could do nothing but be in his debt and humbly respect him.

    Therefore I treated him out to Korean BBQ and we hung out and had a good rest of the time and I took him on his way to the airport. Again, the farewell was bittersweet. Yet of course as you saw in the video we shot, we all left in high spirits. Jay's wonderful optimism during that shoot was great and much needed break from the seriousness I wanted. Only Jay can create something goofy and silly in that manner and have everything be exciting, so it was really wonderful to be a part of that.

    I lied...

    I said you were the truth

    You took it as the truth

    And now I got you...



    TO JON AND JAY, I APOLOGIZE

    I apologize for not being considerate from before. That I wasn't able to look past my own goals and selfishly push my methods on you instead of really collaborating and giving you a positive environment to work with. Though I know you both had said you enjoyed the time together and the trip as a whole, I really wish I could have made it more memorable for you and really allowed more time for more to happen.

    I am happy to hear you both were happy to come out and upon seeing the final product, happy with your performances. Definitely, I am extremely happy and grateful for your time, hard work, and effort spent on those scenes. I think they really, really, show and that most people that know of your work will be pleastantly surprised to see you both flex your ranges. I will be really happy once its up finally for people to see it.

    Thank you both for allowing me to see the errors of my ways and again, thank you both for taking the time to come out and support this project and my goals. My respect level for both of you has risen even greater upon meeting you two and working together and I cant wait to do it again when I have the chance.

    Jon, as much as I tease you about alot of things, I do hope you realize you are my stunt brother, my peer, and my equal. I will always go to you for critique and advice and always be happy to show you my work ahead of time to get your opinion. As much as I feel you nitpick about certain things, please continue doing it because without that trait and preciseness, I would have never been so nitpicky myself. Thank you for everything brother. I miss ya already and can't wait till you are able to come back or when you are finally in NY so we can meet up and film more and more. You have tremendous potential and I can't wait to see what you cook up in NYU. Don't let ANYONE ever tell you to change, because as loud and boisterous as you are sometimes haha, you really have the biggest heart I've seen out of many that I've met in my life. Don't ever lose that. Ever.

    Jay, as much as you downplay your abilities and badmouth yourself, I really think that you HAVE to give yourself much more credit. You truly are capable of many great things as a director and an actor. I think that your professionalism and work ethic are really astounding and really the reason why I give you so much respect now more than ever. Its not that I ever doubted your demeanor, but to see that in person is really something else. Most people might not ever know that, but to me, it doesn't matter. You'll always be a great individual and someone who inspires me to look beyond the normal and push towards your dreams. It was great to finally meet and fight you and I hope to come down for one of your own projects one day. Keep up the great work as always, as you get better and better each time.

    So as you can see, I learned ALOT from working with these two and truly, this and the revelation about my behavīor from my group helped me to calm down and reassess myself as a person, as a film maker, and as a friend. It helped me to prepare for what was to come, which was the biggest and most daunting challenge yet. I finally got to work with the people I've always wanted to work with and those who I probably respected the most and almost the single reason why I created LBP to what it is today.

    I finally got to work with The Stunt People.

    But as usual, a different tale for a different time.

    Till next time, the final chapter!

    Thank you again for reading until the end and I shall try to write soon! This week will give me time to express myself a bit before working feverishly with Leo on his project.

    Can't wait to finish it though!

    Anyway, see you all soon. Thank you again everyone! =D

    Ooo wee You Break My Heart

    But I'll be there beside You

    Ooo wee You Break My Heart

    But I'll be there beside You

    With lots of Love to give...

    Oooh

    Love to give...

    From Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Mexican.

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  • anatheone
    留言於2008-07-16 3:19PM [举报]
    huuuuuuuuh so nice!i!i!  I like  thati!i!
  • zhouxiaofei
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    留言於2008-07-16 9:21AM [举报]
    cool......!
  • janechu
    留言於2008-07-15 11:55PM [举报]
    wow this is quite a long entry... hahaa... I'll have to come back to reading it... hahaa...

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