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  • I'm a Rebel

    2008-11-17 1:16AM / 標準BLOG / 會員可以看
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    Ok this blog might get a little long...or emotional...or weird...just warning in advance since I dunno how it's gonna come out.

    I just finished watching "The Rebel" (Dong Mau Anh Hung), starring Johnny (still feels weird for me to call him that) Tri Nguyen, and AnD's Dustin Tri Nguyen.  If anyone remembers Cradle to the Grave, or The protector starring Tony Jaa Johnny was in both of those movies.  Dustin's on AnD so you can look him up here heh.  I'm not really a fan of Johnny's acting, but since this was supposedly like the biggest movie Vietnam ever made I really wanted to see it.  I'm still not much of a fan of Johnny's acting even after watching the movie, but he did a lot better than I expected...anyway that's not the point.  The point is the movie affected me a lot.  Luckily Sam fell asleep during the movie so he didn't catch me crying the 2-3 times I cried throughout the movie.

    The reason why I think it affected me so much?  The movie takes place in the 1920's while France still controlled Vietnam.  If you dunno Vietnam history other than the Vietnam War then uh I'm not gonna explain it but suffice to say France was a bastard and took over the country for a long time.  My grandfather was apart of the French Indo-China Navy back when he lived there...meaning he worked for the French, not that there was much choice as you can kinda tell through the movie.  I only have one picture of the time my grandfather lived in Vietnam and it's with him and his family...all 12-20 of them sitting outside a hut in a rundown village, he's wearing a navy suit.  So I'm guessing that was probably around the last time he saw most of his family ever again.


    Woot pic of my grandpa...no idea what age though.

    He left vietnam and worked as a cook on some ships for the Navy.  Eventually escaping away to America.  He came to America in and around 1910.  Back then when you came to Ellis Island the people running the immigration lines were bastards and treated non white or non english speaking people at least like animals.  You go through a lot of grueling, demeaning, degrading things before you even get up to the point where they want to know your name.  When you give them your name they don't even listen and just write down whatever they want.  I'm sure many people have similar pasts, least ones who came to here back in the day.  Hence why my name is Vancho and doesn't sound Vietnamese at all.  I still to this day don't even know what my real name should be.  I know my Grandpa's name was Hoang Van something but I don't know what the last part was.  Anyway that's just besides the point.  My grandpa was a great man (a little prideful? heh).  He's one of the only people I've ever looked up to and wanted to be more like in my life.  When I fail at anything he's the one I think of before anyone and feel ashamed for him to be related to me.  He's the one I always pray to and hope I can make him proud one day.  And I never even really knew him...weird isn't it?  He died before I was even 1 year old.  He had my dad when he was at least in his 60's (since no one knew how old he was they just guessed based on how old he looked in his first picture when he came to America) so by the time I was born he was over 80 or 90 something.  Before he died he gave me a stuffed dog as a gift, story goes he died two weeks later.  When I was little I used to say his soul went into the dog.  So I've kept that dog with me everywhere I go ever since, and call it grandpa.  When I was younger I'd have full on conversations with it as if my grandpa was really in it.  I still do once in a while...especially a few months ago when, anyway yeah once in a while I still do.  Here's a pic of the dog...


    Woot my "grandpa" as he appears now.  He's getting old =*(.

    Anyway reasons I look up to my grandpa.  He had to go through a lot of stuff to get to America.  Had to join an army he was most likely against, had to play nice and then run away.  No one really knows the details behind it, supposedly he didn't talk about it much to my dad, and since I never got to know him I never got to ask any of these questions myself.  Once he was in America he had to fit in, which is always hard.  But after a while he did fine.  He spoke 7 languages fluently supposedly, including Vietnamese, French, Italian, English, Cantonese, Mandarin, and Japanese.  My dad used to say it didn't matter where they went my grandpa would just talk to people in whatever language was theirs.  When my dad was young the area they lived in was majorily latino/black and almost no asian's whatsoever.  My grandpa smuggled in lots of Viet's from Vietnam and brought them over here got them jobs and out of the wars.  I'm sure some conservatives will hate him for that but whatever to me he's a hero to all those families for doing that.  We went back to NY a few years ago and the area of Queens (I'm pretty sure it was Queens at least) my dad grew up in is almost completely Viet/Asian in general now.  My dad was sad at first because all the old homes had been torn down and were built into apartments/condos.  But as we got to the block my dad's old house was on it was the first block that didn't have apartments and only the old houses that had been there since at least the 50's.  We found the house my dad grew up in, so he was happy about that.  Anyway more info about my gp.  He was friends with this one cop who worked in China Town, I met this guy and he added some more stories about how everyone loved my Grandpa and how he was always a gentle, quiet, really hard to anger man yet he had a lot of respect from people and was rarely if ever looked down upon for it.  I guess my dad inherited his personality from him, and I got it from my dad.

    Uh so not long after my grandpa came to America WWII came around and America had their concentration camps, even though my grandpa was viet he got sent to those too.  I'm not sure what happened with that...my dad won't ever tell me the details. During the vietnam war they tried to send my dad over to vietnam to go fight for the US because of the draft, they didn't care that he was viet they just wanted him to go over and fight against our family (least that's how I see it).  We're from the north too, so he would more than likely had to have ended up going against someone related to us in one way or another whether its direct or friend of a friend of a family member or whatever.  My dad got out of it luckily, but not easily.  Uh bla bla bla, the war ended and as far as I know so did all my family ties in Vietnam, not knowing my own name makes it kind of hard to figure out who we're related to.  When my Grandpa died other than my dad I pretty much lost all my viet relatives.  So it's kind of funny that I relate so much more with my viet side than anything else.

    Anyway been wanting to write about him for a while, the movie just brought back a lot of memories, ideals and pain about things so I wanted to get it out while I still felt it.

    And so to finish it off...uh go watch The Rebel.

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  • yenan0406
    留言於2008-11-24 11:16PM [举报]
    he is handsome ~~~
  • gilgamesh
    留言於2008-11-23 7:50AM [举报]
    Yeah, its hard to awake my interest, i know, i am working on it, hehe~=P
    But storys out of the past, which experiences formes one is always interesting for me~=)
  • justicevancho
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    留言於2008-11-22 3:16PM
    DY - Yeah sometimes thinking about the struggle they went through makes me feel unworthy of the scarifices they made.  But guess that's why they say they go through it so we won't have to.

    Q - Thanks man, I hope to get back there someday.  I want to get back and find what I can.  I'm sure hes still with me to this day too.  I just hope that every once in a while he's not watching if you know what I mean heh.

    Gil - Thanks bro, glad you find it interesting heh.
  • gilgamesh
    留言於2008-11-19 4:55AM [举报]
    Wow, this blog is from deep within you~interesting bro´~=)
  • quinnjohnson
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    留言於2008-11-18 7:11PM [举报]
    man thats deep! really deep! really hope some day you can make a trip back to vietnam with your dad just to be there... who knows maybe do some research anf try to find old family ties...

    your Grandfather is a good man and im sure he has always been with you and will be proud of you to this moment.

    JUSTICE VANCHO!
  • D.Y._Sao
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    留言於2008-11-18 6:04PM [举报]
    man that was sad
    i always get emotional when i hear about the generation before us
    they worked so hard so that we can have our freedom today
    u should write a lil about ur past everytime too. thas what i'm doin.
    thas why we have to make our films and get out there so people can hear a story worth hearing.
    stories about real people and real struggle, not just the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
  • justicevancho
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    留言於2008-11-18 5:42PM
    Aw damn I hadn't replied to anyone yet.  Guess I better get on that heh.

    Pongz - Heh when I was lil I used to use him as a pillow a lot, now I just keep him around the bed, but rarely sleep with him.  I keep my heart with me when I sleep now hehe...eh yeah I'm manly...-_- heh.

    Luv - I know he was handsome huh?  Man I wish I had inherited more of his genes...

    Shh, don't tell everyone the truth...I'm trying to keep my manly appearance up here.

    Peach - I dunno if my dad doesn't want to tell me or if my dad just really doesn't know.  I'm not sure how much my dad asked my grandpa about it because of the time period and trying to fit in and stuff like that.  Peach, it's possible, you should ask your granmps if he had any worries bout that.

    And it's possible I'm one of those...but how can you mess up those to get VanCho?  That's pretty bad hehe.

    Luv2 - No 100 year isn't too old for you, go for someone more like 1000 that'd suit you better.

    Melly - Heh thanks.  Hugs are nice ^_^.

    Back - Yeah a lot of people had to go through similar things back in those days.  America wasn't that nice of a place to be as a first generation foreigner...although I don't think that much has changed in that regard...but it's prolly at least a little better.  Thanks for all your supportive words and the relations to your own life.  I like to know I'm not the only one like myself out there sometimes heh.

    Medo - Thanks for reading.

    Ms. S - You noticed he's falling apart?  I blame it on old age.  His nails are fallin off, his stomach has a hole in it...but it's not really noticeable etc.  =*(
    I'll work on that side by side pic of my gdad and I someday, I'll try to get the same pose and everything hehe.  Yeah maybe but the only people who would have probably known my grandpa or his family are prolly long dead.  I do have 1 living viet cousin whom I've never met, but that's a whole other story heh.

    Poked - WOW!!! You're here =\ hehe.

    Seek - Yeah everyone takes things for granted, I don't think it's such a bad thing though.  I mean it's not like people who go through things should wish those same hardships upon other people.  Rather they should wish others don't have to go through the same hardships.  At least that's how I feel.  The times it gets to me (usually in cases of rich vs poor people) is when the other person can't even seem to grasp the concept and either insults or just disregards things that are important about the others past etc...ok I think I'm rambling now heh.

    Sman - If you were awake I wouldn't have cried hehe...prolly...muahahaha thats what you get for sleepin heh.

    Nana - Thanks...-_-"

    Moon - Sorry to hear that, sucks when you find out things about family members so late in life, rather than just always knowing.

    Sat - sorry to hear about that.  But your grandparents did give you something, they gave you a few memories of time you spent with them.  Even if you didn't get to see him much I'm sure you got at least a few memories right?  ^_^.  The dog's all I ever got from him, so since I was little I had to keep it close.  My dad's mom died when my dad was 17 years old, so I never even got to see her once.

    Bus - Yeah I get a lot of my Vietnam War info from my dad, he was obviously anti the war.  BUT he was living in America during the time of the war so even his info about it was prolly not the same as someone who was in Vietnam.  
    And yeah I feel sad when I see Viet people who don't care about the history at all.  Although I think some Viet guys I know who come to US from Vietnam can get a little over prideful about it too and start bashing all US born Vietnamese.

    Kelly - I can only wish I looked as good as him heh.

    Butter - I hope so.  I feel bad for him sometimes having a grandson like me, I need to step it up and make him proud.  Yeah, I doubt my life will ever be nearly hard as his must have been, just think about the time difference just technology alone makes my life already much easier than his heh.  Thanks I like the dog too =).

    Annie - Thanks, I like writing what I feel too...just gets me in trouble sometimes heh.  I'm glad you're glad that I feel that way too...and thanks I look like a more mixed breed version of him right? ^_^
  • anniechang
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    留言於2008-11-18 3:50PM [举报]
    Its good to write about how you feel.  I'm glad you feel that way and you know.. you kind of look like him. :-)
  • butter
    留言於2008-11-18 10:42AM [举报]
    Nice how you talk about your Grandpa.  He definitely sounds worthy of your admiration and I'm sure he would be very proud that you still think of and hold him in high regard.  His life was tough for sure.  Gives you some perspective when you think you're having a rough time.  That dog is really sweet btw.
  • JustKelly
    留言於2008-11-17 11:19PM [举报]
    wow, he is handsome...this must be where you get it from.
  • busa
    留言於2008-11-17 4:07PM [举报]
    well I guess there's no need to explain the Vietnam war to me... in fact I can give you more details that are NOT Americanised...
    your granddad like many in his time are very admirable... they come to a completely new country and made something of themselves... hats off to your grandpa.
    I have to say though... not many people look upon their Vietnamese background and be proud of it, so I'm sure your grandpa is sooo proud of you that you didn't forget your roots. One thing I can tell you is that people of his generation is all about being proud of their heritage.
  • saturnsshadow
    留言於2008-11-17 3:31PM [举报]
    Your grandpa seems like he was an awesome bloke...reading that reminded me of my mum's dad...I never got to see him and grandma much when we were kids because of the 3 hour drive to their house...he died when I was 13 so I didn't get to know him as an adult and ask him the questions that I would like to ask...*sigh*

    I like your dog, it reminds me of the Hush Puppies dog for the shoe commercials...it's cute...and it's sweet that you used to talk to it and thought that your granpa's soul was in it...I wish that I had something that my grandpa had given me...
  • moonchild72
    留言於2008-11-17 1:51PM [举报]
    DJ ~ if it will make you feel a little better, one of my male ancestors (a great-grandpa) ran away from home, changed his name & joined the army during WWI ~ this was only recently discovered by another one of my relatives ...
  • R_A_I_N_A
    留言於2008-11-17 11:20AM [举报]
    awwww
    ur such a little boy :D
  • sampuefua
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    留言於2008-11-17 7:58AM [举报]
    Yeah I didnt know that you rented that movie for a certain reason...it affected you that much.

    DAMMM WHY DID I GO FELL ASLEEP!!!!
  • Seeker-09
    留言於2008-11-17 7:33AM [举报]
    This was amazing, thanks you so much for sharing it here. When you talked about Ellis Island was the 1st time it struck me why my English/ Irish ancestors didn't get the boatload of sh*t other friends have talked about theirs getting. Mine got theirs afterwards when they tried to get jobs, but it never got thru to me the head start they had on assimilating into the US of the time just because they (more or less in the case of the Irish lol) spoke English. God, the things I've taken for granted that came so hard in so many cases.

    What a handsome dude your grandpa was & even tho I don't know you well yet your personality on the board comes across like his. :)

    What people go thru to give their family a new start is incredible & makes me so grateful for their bravery in leaving their homeland & in most cases never seeing those they left behind ever again.

    Amazing.
  • pokedpenguin19
    留言於2008-11-17 7:08AM [举报]
    WOW cool!!!!!!!
  • MissScarlett
    留言於2008-11-17 6:26AM [举报]
    "I'm sure some conservatives will hate him for that..." Actually, the word I would use are "brave" and "nobel."

    Thanx for sharing this :)

    I have some friends whose family came through Ellis Island from Scotland. They spoke English and STILL got their name butchered. Nice to know government workers haven't changed much in a 100+ years, eh?

    "...so he didn't catch me crying..." Awww... *hug!*

    Maybe as your dad gets older, he'll mellow a bit and answer some of your questions. It's your history too!

    Yeah, it's too bad you don't know your grandfather's real name. Maybe if you scraped together what you DO know along with the pictures you have, and posted it all in the right place, someone could answer that question?

    I'd like to see a side-by-side of that pic of your grandpa and you... ;)
  • MissScarlett
    留言於2008-11-17 6:12AM [举报]
    If he needs some repairs, I volunteer!
  • medo56
    留言於2008-11-17 5:39AM [举报]
    great   story  -  again  !

    thanks  for  sharing  !
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